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Those damned noisy neighbors
03-11-2019, 09:21 AM
Post: #1
Those damned noisy neighbors
(OOG: thread about Vittmark's reflections and responses to events unfolding in Aedeland from Nov 7579 onward)

"If there is a shift in authority in Valland, then it should be towards us," Chancellor av Hagen explained undiplomatically. The security chancellor from Hagen remembered all too well that Aedeland confiscated a slice of the western territory of Hagen during the Pan Anarian War. It was not official Vittmarker policy that it wanted parts of Valland to return to Hagen, but it surely was a surviving sentiment among Hagenites.

"At the end of the Three Way Conflicts, Aedeland helped pacify western Hagen in order to pave the way for the federation we now have," Palne Kristersson added. In absence of the queen and crown princess, he replaced them in cabinet meetrings. "Of course they had self interest and maybe some less noble motives to justify this step..."

Av Hagen looked stupified. If there was someone who would never defend the Aldsay, it was Palne. And now he did just that.

"They were an occupying force..." he countered.
"Matter of perspective. Listen, we're not here to formulate this chapter in the history books, we're here to decide about the future. Your blunt statement that Valland should be Hagenite won't help a thing at this moment. But offering our help in surpressing Häverist uprisings in Valland, returning the favor from the early 7560..."

"They won't accept that, never."
"Of course not, but that's their problem."

"Gentlemen," Prime Chancellor av Lårsten cut off the discussion. "We won't do anything like that. I am counting on it that Ålesund is looking for a reason to blame this on us, providing aide to surpress häverist anti-governmental forces is just the thing they would need. They would state that we're behind the uprising in order to destabilize the country."

Foreign chancellor Rågersson added his bit a bit cowardly at the end of the discussion, while this actually was his core business.
"We sure would like to see a change in government in Aedeland, this thin shell only providing for corporate interests. But a shift towards häverism won't change a thing, they'll just replace the current aristocracy with another class of kleptomaniacs."

"Chancellors," Palne Kristersson concluded, "I am no position to make any proposal here, I don't have the mandate to do that, but could I bring up the topic of small scale intervention in Valland? Not to protect the current regime's interest, nor that of the häverist, but to see to it that the local population is able to determine their future themselves? I mean, as soon as someone tips over the cupboard in Ålesund, nothing preamptive...."

"We do have a contingency plan for this," Av Hagen added.
"Strictly military, yes. But nothing about a post intervention set up for self determination."
"We would not be welcomed as liberators. There's too much historical baggage. Unless someone can show me a reliable opposing local authority as receiving part for this solution, the entire contingency plan will never be lifted from paper to reality."

VITTMARK:"This mess is a place." --- FISKS:"Fisk you!"
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04-22-2019, 11:20 PM
Post: #2
RE: Those damned noisy neighbors
"Idiots... all of them."
Prime Chancellor av Lårsten defined the Aldsay in the extra cabinet meeting after Aedeland proclaimed Technate.
"Those poor bastards run from one oppressive force to another. 'If you work hard now and help us establishing mechanized production, then you will be rewarded later, once production no longer requires man-hours'. That bullshit hasn't been working in Helreich for decades, but still those Aldsay lemmings fall for it..."

Bilandsdotter sat very quiet and Palne Kristersson had noticed it.
"Don't worry," he whispered, "we know you went through that phase."
She reacted as if she had been stung by a bee.
"It's not important," Palne continued, "the important parft is that you grew over it."
"You knew?" she asked. Palne nodded. "And you let me become chancellor?" she continued.
"Of course. We all have done things we regret, during the war, or the Three Way Conflicts. Joining a häverist youth movement doesn't come close to what others at this table have been doing."

"Could we keep the talks focused," Av Lårsten interrupted the private conversation between Marey Bilandsdotter and Palne.
"Of course," Palne replied, "Chancellor Bilandsdotter reminded me of an important issue. We should reassess our policy towards the draft dodgers."

Vittmark had seen hundreds of soldiers refusing to serve in the Hanniyyah's crossing the border. Since they were military from a Straits Cartel nation, they had been detained at first. But the fear of the old regime in Ålesund sending some agents pretending to be military refugees had complicated matters. Aedelish deserters could not be detained in groups.

Palne had suggested to spread them across farmsteads, mainly in the south, having them work for lodging while being watched by well organised stims. But some of them had tried to make it even further south, to the Economic Zone or even Mörenburg. Häverist territory.

"Let's assume that those former military still working as quartered refugees are not interested in returning to a häverist Aedeland. They also oppose the old elitist regime. They are the alternative we should support."

"What?" It was unclear if Av Hagen was genuinely surprised or just wanted Palne to elaborate.
"There is some nobility abroad, trying to organise opposition, reinstituting the original constitution. But we don't want things back as they were. We don't like these häverists either. We should allow the non-elitist Aldsay form a government in exile and we should start training the deserters as a liberation army."

"If that would happen on Vittmarker soil, that would be a perfect excuse for the häverists to cross the borders. From both sides..."
"And that's why it should not happen here. but somewhere more preripheral. Gilles Henkes in Fisks for example, or Prince Folke Island."
"Halland?"
"It's an option..."

VITTMARK:"This mess is a place." --- FISKS:"Fisk you!"
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