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The Altaian Reach
09-28-2019, 05:25 PM
Post: #1
The Altaian Reach
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http://www.worldofgotha.com/wiki/index.p...aian_Reach

This is my proposed breakaway Sriaav majority nation. It won't be a primary player nation at this stage. I want to define the outcome of centuries of Sriaav settlement in NE Altaia that has occurred over the centuries of Kamuran imperial dominance which seems like a very natural process to have occurred in the first place and was ultimately encouraged and supported by the Hanayakaav Khatunate between 7000 and 7300 RH. The Altaian Reach would remain a colony of the Kamuran Empire until 7508 RH (842 SK) and so has only been an independent nation for a few decades.

The orange regions are the nation proper. These broke away after a violent insurrection cause by instability in the Empire as a whole and economic trouble. There was a religious component as well considering that the Altaia Sriaav were rebelling against the Khatun. Despite the subsequent Kamuran Revolution and the rise of the elected Khatunate, the Reach has chosen to remain separate and secular. Many Celestialist sects exist in the country including those who recognise the Khatun in Kamura as divine and seek reconciliation and even reintegration into the her empire and radicals who no longer recognise her divinity and anoint they're own Kami or reject the practice of divine matriarchy altogether.

The gold regions show regions of Sriaav settlement and cultural influence outside the borders of Kamuran and Reach sovereignty. The Sriaav may still be culturally and economically dominant in some of these areas but it's purposely left vague. The Samzayids should also be considered as a complimentary culture to the Sriaav as they were integrated into the colonial system historically. They too have settlements on the continent and a long heritage there. These regions are in a limbo, floating between favouring the Reach, the Kamuran Empire and other nations in the region (whom ever they may be...).

The government of the Reach is a confederated republic dominated by city states specialised in trade and exports that has experienced significant industrialisation, has opened up to cultural exchanges with Anarians, particularly Vittmark, due to the latter's possession Fisks being located nearby. The Wolgos also have cool relations with the Reach due to the Reach being the source of much of the contracting work done by Wolgos smugglers and pirates.

The Reach has a Sriaav majority alongside minorities or Samzayids, Xiangren and the indigenous Aka'lm with the first two being the most favoured groups and the latter two been lower-class, marginalised labourers. The dominant religion is still Celestialism albeit divided into sects. To avoid sectarian discrimination and conflict the government is avowedly secular though tensions occasionally flair up, especially where relations with Kamura are concerned.

Statistics and a flag are due to follow soon....

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09-28-2019, 05:49 PM
Post: #2
RE: The Altaian Reach
Statistics for the Altaian Reach:

Area: 1,305,629 km

Population: 31,087,878

Army Size: 122,720

Navy Points: 29

Airship Points: 3

GDP: 196,707,375

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09-28-2019, 06:35 PM
Post: #3
RE: The Altaian Reach
The Flag of the Reach

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It's the same dimensions as the Kamuran flag so smaller and more compact than typical Gothan flags. The turquoise green backdrop is representative of the Reach's natural beauty, including along it's coastal forests and mountains.

The white and red star in the middle represents the purity of intent and the blood of sacrifice. This is a nation that went against thousands of years of tradition to attain it's independence and it's flag is meant to symbolise the tough choices that need to be made in order to truly prosper. Or something like that!

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10-01-2019, 11:45 PM
Post: #4
RE: The Altaian Reach
Looking good. I see the northern Fisks islands ended up in the Sriaav influence zone as well. Makes sense. We still have to explain this little breakaway group in southern Fisks called the Kakuri, who clearly have ties with the region dating back 400-500 years ago. Work in progress!

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10-02-2019, 01:48 AM
Post: #5
RE: The Altaian Reach
Well the Kakuri are your own creation Pep so I'll leave it for you to suggest ideas on that!

The Julian Sea lore is something I'd like to see expand. You said there could've been a major geological event of some kind in the region about 400 years ago which destroyed a previous maritime civilisation there, whoever you would suppose that would have been....

I presume it was a volcanic eruption, earthquakes and tsunamis that did the damage following by a volcanic winter that sets the whole Gotha back a bit. When the dust settles it's the Anarians who have the edge and no one is sitting in the Julian Sea to block them off any longer, thus making them a Kamuran concern.

As for Northern Fisks, how does this change the canon on the acquisition of the islands? I'll have to look at their wiki page!

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10-02-2019, 08:41 AM
Post: #6
RE: The Altaian Reach
Sorry James, forgot to reply to this one! I like the proposal. I believe this would make it the first post-colonial state on Gotha! (If I'm not mistaken). A ready-made post-colonial state would be an interesting new nation for somebody to pick up for themselves, or indeed just enable us to develop the region's history in more detail in the meantime (the more important reason, let's be honest!).

To have a Siraav majority means that the Kamurans would have been exporting considerable numbers of its own population and/or committing genocide. When do you see the Kamurans 'setting up shop', as it were?

Also, I like that it is a confederation of city states - very nice.

I imagine Anisora wouldn't have loads of contacts with them - but I daresay there will be some Anisoran merchants around trying to flog them Anisoran wine, paintings and colonial produce etc. With Anisoran interests in the Shangti intensifying (along with many others in the wake of Kamuran actions), there might be an interesting role for the Reach to play in the political game being played. Anisora would probably recognise the state by now and perhaps have an ambassador there?

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10-02-2019, 07:36 PM
Post: #7
RE: The Altaian Reach
Quote:I presume it was a volcanic eruption, earthquakes and tsunamis that did the damage following by a volcanic winter that sets the whole Gotha back a bit. When the dust settles it's the Anarians who have the edge and no one is sitting in the Julian Sea to block them off any longer, thus making them a Kamuran concern.

That is the main idea, although I might be opting for a meteorite impact instead. I don't know if it's feasible that the Kamurans set up a range of trading hubs along the coastline of the Julian, off which the Kakuri are the last remaining entity. But then I guess that a megatsunami event would hev been recorded in Kamuran history. Well, maybe it has, we just haven't established it.

Quote:As for Northern Fisks, how does this change the canon on the acquisition of the islands? I'll have to look at their wiki page!

Not much, I guess. Depending on when this decolonization took place, it could even fit the Fisks setting up a permanent shop there in the post-colonial vacuum.

Right now, the wiki states "The indigenous population of Gilles Karolinas all belong to the Mizust ethnicity and speak a Pacherok language. On Gilles Henkes this population is present as well (speaking a different Pacherok language), but there are also settlements of Izmotal people speaking a Panotacani language." This can easily be changed. Or Fisks got rid of the Sriaav. Although that might ef up relations a bit, right? Either way, not a problem.

VITTMARK:"This mess is a place." --- FISKS:"Fisk you!"
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10-02-2019, 08:10 PM
Post: #8
RE: The Altaian Reach
(10-02-2019 08:41 AM)August Dux Wrote:  To have a Siraav majority means that the Kamurans would have been exporting considerable numbers of its own population and/or committing genocide. When do you see the Kamurans 'setting up shop', as it were?

That's precisely what happened, moreso the large scale settlement and practising of advanced agriculture that led to a Sriaav population explosion there. In truth the ethnic makeup of the Reach population would be a mix of Sriaav, Samzayid, Xianic and Aka'lm with the Sriaav culture predominant.

It is still relatively close and accessible to Kamura compared to the distance between Europe and North America in OTL so to me over a generous period of time this scenario is not only doable, I think its realistic that something like this did happen.

The Reach would have seen Kamuran colonial activities from when the Kamuran trade triangle really took off in the 6700's but it would be between 7000 and 7300 that the trans-formative migrations would occur. After 7300 the language and customs of the Reachers and Kamurans would begin to diverge somewhat and the Reach forms it's own sense of nationhood, setting the stage for the secession.

In relative size and population, if we say that Kamura is the UK then the Reach would probably be comparable to an early USA in it's first decades of existence. It has a population roughly half the size of Kamura's but a large continental territory relative to Kamura's scattered islands.

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10-02-2019, 08:20 PM (This post was last modified: 10-02-2019 08:22 PM by TeamBattleaxe.)
Post: #9
RE: The Altaian Reach
(10-02-2019 07:36 PM)Pepijn Wrote:  Not much, I guess. Depending on when this decolonization took place, it could even fit the Fisks setting up a permanent shop there in the post-colonial vacuum.

Right now, the wiki states "The indigenous population of Gilles Karolinas all belong to the Mizust ethnicity and speak a Pacherok language. On Gilles Henkes this population is present as well (speaking a different Pacherok language), but there are also settlements of Izmotal people speaking a Panotacani language." This can easily be changed. Or Fisks got rid of the Sriaav. Although that might ef up relations a bit, right? Either way, not a problem.

Decolonisation, which was involuntary, it was a rather violent affair which Kamura was too hard up to resist at the time, occurred in 7508. This precedes Vittmark's independence by a few decades.

I would presume that the Northern Fisks have had close cultural ties with nearby Xholate so the native culture makes sense to me. I think that though Kamura would've had a long-term presence in the area, it would've passed the islands by in favour of establishing bases on Xholate itself which would have been a tributary for centuries.

These natives like many populations in Northeast Altaia could have West Davaian admixture. My the biggest island, visible on the map had a Sriaav presence which is maintained due to our co-operation.

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10-02-2019, 08:58 PM
Post: #10
RE: The Altaian Reach
To be exact, Fisks predates Vittmark...

The settlers from Fisks left Ådalen (a predecessor state to Vittmark) in 7523 and started settling more permanent on the northern islands in the 7530's. That was during a violent episode in the Pan-Anarian War. The merchant fleet would have been quite an assett for anyone wanting to supply the fighting parties. Especially those opposing Ådalen, for example Helreich and the Wolgos...

It is even possible that Kamura helped Fisk colonizing the islands on the territory of their own former colony.

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